Boston Church politicizing New Year’s vigil with secular agenda

With Christianity being wiped out in Iraq and other parts of the Middle East and so many truly important things to pray for in the New Year consistent with our Catholic faith and what the Catholic Church teaches us to pray for, we regret to inform you that a church in the Archdiocese of Boston under Cardinal Sean O’Malley is holding a prayer vigil this Saturday with 7 hours of prayer “to express our desire to be free of prejudice and fear of difference,” including fear of difference with respect to sexuality, race and gender.

The flyer below from last weekend’s parish bulletin at St. Marys in Foxboro can be found below. The pastor is Fr. Steven Madden, known for constantly citing the New England Patriots in his homilies. It appears that he and the organizers are confusing what is appropriate for Catholics to pray for.  The flyer says there will be Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament from 4-11pm on January 3, with individual hours for prayer, including for “Those hated because of sexuality.”  Yup.  They are not praying that those who suffer from homosexual attractions or engage in homosexual activity experience conversion to God’s plan and a life of holiness.  Their other prayer intentions include to be free of prejudice for refuFoxboro Vigilgees, immigrants, and those oppressed by race.

A parishioner commented to BCI in disbelief about how their local parish was subtly yet blatantly endorsing secular societal view points and using the Blessed Sacrament for “their propaganda…Am I supposed to support this?”

We would advise parishioners to pray elsewhere, and we would express the concerns a little differently. The Catechism of the Council of Trent says the following about what we should pray for:

What We Should Pray For

Under the head of each Petition we shall point out in its proper place, what is, and what is not a proper object of prayer. Hence it will suffice here to remind the faithful in a general way that they ought to ask of God such things as are just and good, lest, praying for what is not suitable, they may be repelled in these words: You know not what you ask. Whatever it is lawful to desire, it is lawful to pray for, as is proved by the Lord’s ample promise: You shall ask whatever you will, and it shall be done unto you, words in which He promises to grant all things.

Spiritual Goods

In the first place, then, the standard which should regulate all our wishes is that we desire above all else God, the supreme Good. After God we should most desire those things which unite us most closely to Him; while those which would separate us from Him, or occasion that separation, should have no share whatever in our affections.

Goods Of The Mind

It is also lawful to pray for the goods and adornments of the mind, such as a knowledge of the arts and sciences, provided our prayers are accompanied with this condition, that they serve to promote the glory of God and our own salvation.

The only thing which can be absolutely and unconditionally the object of our wishes, our desires and our prayers, is, as we have already observed, the glory of God, and, next to it, whatever can serve to unite us to that supreme Good, such as faith and the fear and love of God, of which we shall treat at length when we come to explain the Petitions.

The Prayer Of Petition Should Be Offered For All

We are to pray for all mankind, without exception of enemies, nation or religion; for every man, be he enemy, stranger or infidel, is our neighbour, whom God commands us to love, and for whom, therefore, we should discharge a duty of love, which is prayer. To the discharge of this duty the Apostle exhort: when he says: I desire that prayer be made for all men. In such prayers we should first ask for those things that concern spiritual interests, and next for what pertains to temporal welfare.

Those For Whom We Should Especially Offer Our Petitions: Pastors, Rulers Of Our Country, The Just, Enemies And Those Outside The Church (those that persecute us), The Dead, Sinners

In short, we should most desire those things which unite us most closely to God. Praying for those marginalized by society is fine.  But if the parish and pastor cannot or will not pray for intentions such as spiritual goods, goods of the mind, the conversion of sinners, for Catholics and Christians persecuted because of their faith, the protection of life from the moment of conception to natural death, or the intentions referenced above from the Catechism, then there seems to a fundamental misunderstanding of the Catholic faith at this church.  Pray for the conversion of heart of the pastor, Fr. Steven Madden.  Forward this blog post to him at st.mary@foxboro.comcastbiz.net.

78 Responses to Boston Church politicizing New Year’s vigil with secular agenda

  1. D Paul says:

    It is time to stop being naïve. The Big O is now considered to be the “pope of the Americas”. He is one step behind the pope himself in his G-9 group of advisors. O’Malley is certainly not naïve. His destruction of the traditionalist movement was intentional and well orchestrated by merging traditional parishes with progressive ones. This is all about socialism and rule by the people who will select their clergy in line with the morality of society. There are no rules. “Doctrine and morality” are under attack from the Vatican itself. The “Third Secret of Fatima” predicted this. The gay lobby has its pope. The Church is recruiting gay clergy and developing a gay theology for acceptable relationships. Read the Huffington Post. The Gospel according to Oscar Romero has superseded the one of Jesus Christ. Mother Theresa is now seen as a symbol of a fading sexist church. The Mother of God herself is being elevated to an equal position with Jesus Christ as a co redemptrix. There is heresy breaking out everywhere as socialism looks to merge church and state in the pinnacle of the Communist fulfillment of Teilhard de Chardin.

    • Revoltron1 says:

      “It is time to stop being naive.”

      You are absolutely correct. We need to stop living in denial and see this situation for what it is: a hostile takeover.

  2. Lois Redican says:

    “All Christian Churches and Jewish Synagogues must display in front of their buildings God’s Ten Commandments for all passersby to see…then there will be peace.” This message was given to me after praying to St. Michael the Archangel to save us from the lawlessness, violence, and beheadings so prevalent in the world today. Please consider this a challenge…do we not offend some people or do we not offend God?

  3. Please correct typo in article. You have “then there seems to be a fundamental understanding ….”
    Surely you mean “fundamental misunderstanding”.

  4. JMM says:

    I think it is proper to pray that homosexuals will not be persecuted or treated badly. That’s a crying need. Yes, homosexual acts are against God’s law and we should pray on that too. But the meanness and lack of love for the person must be addressed too. This is an important issue for us Catholics to address.

    • Boston priest says:

      JMM,
      Of course we do not want for anyone to be persecuted. But if you’re saying and believe we should pray that we can respect and not judge sinners–at the expense or instead of praying for the conversion of sinners–that belief would be without theological basis.

      • tgbtg14 says:

        Yes, Boston priest…You have the true and correct perspective. So many Catholics have been unwittingly drawn into the secular mindset, and most do not even recognize that it has happrened to them.
        2015 will be a pivotal year for us to adhere to – and truly, courageously – STAND UP for the authentic teachings of Christ’s church. `

      • JMM says:

        Dear Boston Priest: Indeed we can pray for both. Both are sins. I remember when parishes had groups for divorced/remarried Catholics. Sinners, yes, but they were welcomed into the church for healing. The same thing should be done for homosexuals. Every parish in the archdiocese should have a gay group, where this poor minority can come and find healing and sustenance-and, yes, moral correction. We often forget that Jesus surrounded himself with sinners.

      • Boston priest says:

        JMM,
        There is already a group in the church for those with same-sex attractions who seek to live a life of holiness–it’s called Courage Ministries. They do great work of healing, support in living a life of holiness and sustenance. Email Fr Steve Madden and suggest he bring them to the parish and see what he says. One note to you: your choice of wording suggests you have bought into the gay agenda a bit. You said there should be a group in every parish for “gays.” That would be people who self-identify as actively practicing a homosexual lifestyle. You would be better served to suggest there be a group for those who find themselves with a same-sex attraction who want to live a life of holiness.

  5. Has Fr. Steven Madden been asked by Cardinal O’Malley to have his parishioners pray for those who are demanding that anyone who says that same-sex sex acts are wrong are to be silenced?
    Cardinal Francis George of Chicago has stated that “the levers of power in government,education,entertainment and media are enforcing a “public creed” , a “fake church” that requires all citizens to approve of gay marriage and related sexual anomalies or be punished by the State.”( “Cardinal: U.S.’Creed’ on Gay Marriage Like Sharia Law”,cnsnews.com,Sept. 10,2014).
    The imposition of this ‘creed’ has been the major work of Terrence Bean, a major Democratic power fund raiser and founder of the Human Rights Campaign, a leading gay rights group.
    At present, Cardinal George is preparing for his death from cancer and will soon be meeting God,his Maker and Judge. Terrence Bean is presently preparing to appear before a Judge in Oregon to face charges of two counts of third degree sodomy and one charge of third degree sex abuse.(“Dem fundraiser charged with child sex abuse met Obama often” by David Brown,The Washington Times,Nov.25,2014). The silence in this regard is that our local newspapers have refused to publish this behavior on the part of Terrence Bean, as well as other secretive behaviors that have come to light only in Washington and Oregon, because he is a major force in making sure that all public schools in the United States teach children his beliefs regarding sexual behavior.
    Would Fr. Madden ask his parishioners to pray that those power brokers , such as Terrence Bean, who are working to silence believing Catholics ,change their ways? Would Cardinal O’Malley support Cardinal George in this same effort?

  6. Capt Crunch says:

    It’s time to concede that we are living in the UUAB, United Universalist Archdiocese of Boston. The big O’s boss is too busy negotiating peace between the U.S. and Cuba, writing encyclicals about climate change and basking in secular glory to worry about things Catholic. Why should Cardinal O see things differently?

    Withhold funds from the archdiocese and do what you can to preserve True Catholicism.

  7. JMM says:

    Dear Boston Priest: That was just an inadvertent use of language. If that group is effective and loving let’s get them into every parish in the archdiocese. And let us pray that the people of the Catholic church will be more Jesus-like with sinners.

  8. tgbtg14 says:

    If anyone knows what happened with this vigil last night, please post. Thank you,

  9. JMM’s suggestion that every parish in the archdiocese have a Courage/EnCourage group to help those who want to learn how to live in a chaste manner and leave their same-sex sexual addictions behind , has been tried in the Boston Archdiocese. But,sadly ,many pastors have received calls from parishioners who accuse them of being “discriminating” against those engaging in same-sex sex acts, that they don’t dare to follow through with inviting priests who support Courage/EnCourage to even explain about this help in their parish. I wish I knew why Cardinal O’Malley has not followed through with this gravely needed help, but he has not.

    • tgbtg14 says:

      I’d also like to know why Cardinal O’Malley is not doing this. What can be done to make the Courage apostolate much more well-known?

  10. Rebecca says:

    I find it so unspeakably sad that such a peaceful, kind and welcoming priest is being torn down in this manner. How hateful. How UN-Christ-like. Fr Steve is a shining example of living for others. Putting the needs of others above himself. Serving the underserved, the forgotten, the sick, the “unlove-able”. His leadership of our parish should be an example to those wondering about a vocation. Rather than building a community of hate and isolation, Fr Steve is building a community of love. Exactly as Christ taught.

    • Debbie says:

      Well said Rebecca. Fr. Steve lives his life in the true manner of Jesus. I have known this man for many years and he has been nothing but kind, compassionate and inclusive to all. He is a man who is loved by many in Foxboro…..not just Catholics. Fr. Steve is open and welcoming to all. I guess the Dominican Sister’s forgot to teach me that God only loves “some people”! My God loves and embraces all people just as Fr. Steve does.
      It saddens me that whomever has an issue with him 1. would resort to blogging about it. 2. not have the courage to sign their own name. 3. would try to disgrace the most wonderful Pastor St. Mary’s has ever had.
      I will pray for all of you who are so small minded or feel horrified by fact you might have to pray next to a homosexual/gay person. Trust me it isn’t catchy! I am sure Fr. Steve has the support of most of the parish and they have his back just like he has theirs. God Bless you Fr, Steve you lead by example. Thank you.

  11. I attended the vigil last night and I am a faithful parish member to St. Mary’s. It deeply saddens me to read this comments condemning the work that Father Steve and Deacon Paul have done.

    I’m confused on how people were commenting on what was being said at this vigil even before the vigil actually took place. These comments were then based on assumptions, and not on truth. So incase you need clarity, I want to explain what happened last night.

    The vigil last night consisted of a series of prayers for forgiveness, understanding, and the love of all people. Our community came together to pray for peace in our world despite all that has been in the news recently. Father Steve read passages from the bible on the love and forgiveness of Jesus. He quoted prayers, verbatim, by Pope Francis calling for us to love one another, forgive our enemies, and take action towards creating a peaceful world. People spoke of situations in their lives in which they experienced oppression and adversity and how God helped them to have the strength to carry on. We sang songs of peace (with a beautiful rendition of “Let there be peace on earth” I might add). We simply prayed for peace and love. We sat together, in a church, as a community, and prayed for peace and love. If anyone has an issue with that, then I pray that you seek guidance and council so YOU can have a better understanding of the fundamental teachings of the Catholic Church.

    It breaks my heart to see people hiding behind a computer screen, telling parish members to “pray elsewhere” and praying for the “conversion of Father Steve’s heart”. How could you pass judgement like that and call yourself a Christian? I think we should leave the judging up to the one true King.

    I want everyone who reads this to know that St. Mary’s church is the backbone of our community. Father Steve and Deacon Paul create a parish environment in which people feel welcome, supported, and loved. Everyone listens to the homilies because Father Steve and Deacon Paul get you excited about God and about being a Catholic. You will find elderly people, families, young couples, and kids from all walks of life coming together with the common goal of becoming closer to God. Our small church thrives on the love and fellowship of it’s people. I am so proud to be a part of such a wonderful parish.

    Lastly, I want to add that I have attended church almost every Sunday at St. Mary’s for the past year and while I have never once heard Father Steve reference the Patriots in his homily, he does occasionally say “Go Pats” at the end of mass after closing prayer. I welcome you to tell me of any other church in Massachusetts that does not do the same.

    • David S. says:

      Jenna,

      May I respectfully ask you a question.

      Do you accept the teaching of Church as defined the Humanae Vitae? In other words, do you believe that all acts of artificial birth control, witthout exception, between a married Catholic couple are a mortal sin?

      • The sound of crickets.

      • Jenna says:

        David, all I can say is, who are you to ask me this? My views on this matter are between me, my husband, and God. So out of respect for my husband I will not discuss this on the internet.

        Carol, I assume you were referring to my delayed response. I find it unsettling that you are watching this blog so carefully that you are timing the responses to my posts. I also am disheartened that a perfect stranger can make assumptions on my morals. Again, let’s leave the judging up to God.

        I’m going to pray for you both tonight. I will pray that you open your hearts to others without judgement and find the strength to put your pride aside and respect the views of others.

        Wishing you a happy and healthy new year. Have a good rest of your week!

      • Jenna, I would invite you to count the assumptions and judgments in your posts. In the interest of charity, I’ll let your visions slide.

        The question is a valid concern on how Fr. Madden is conveying the teachings of the Church to his parishioners. The misunderstandings and emotions around the subject of human sexuality leaves the Catholic reader with concerns.

        Any and every Baptized Catholic has every right and duty to find out if he is misguiding his parishioners. Our relatives and loved ones may live in that town.

        Claiming your opinions on Church teaching are private matters between you and your husband while posting your opinions about what other Catholics think, contradicts each other.

      • David S. says:

        Jenna,
        I didn’t ask you whether you and your husband practiced artificial birth control. I would not have even guessed you were married, as that is irrelevant. My question is whether you accept the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church that all acts of artifical birth control, without exception, are a mortal sin. The question is an easy way to flush out the cafeteria Catholics who post to this blog.

    • bostoncommon says:

      SO good to read your post Jenna, and Debbie and Rebecca’s. Our parish has a “Father Steve” too, who sounds to be just the type of person your pastor is and has been reviled here and other loving “Christian” blogs..

  12. My question, regarding the intent of the pastor of your church and any of the pastors in the Boston Archdiocese ,is: Will priests who support the only Vatican- approved organization for helping those who desire to leave behind the addiction towards same-sex sexual acts and live in a chaste manner as expressed in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, be welcomed to speak at Mass to explain the way of Courage/EnCourage? If not,why not? That’s all I’m asking.
    I am not criticizing Fr. Madden or his planned services to call us to love one another. True love of God is essential to the meaning of
    God’s will for His creatures! The above last 2 letters do not address whether or not priests who can address the need for explaining how Courage/EnCourage are so needed and should be welcomed to speak of this need to the parishioners of St. Mary’s and other Catholic church parishioners. Why is no one willing to answer this question?

    • Jenna says:

      Alice, thanks for clarifying. My response was directed towards the original post on this blog. I think your above question sparks a bigger question of how do past teachings of the church fit into our evolving culture and society in the 21st century. And I don’t know if there is an answer. It’s uncharted territory that I think Catholics (from myself all the way up to the leaders of our church) are trying to figure out. For this, I know I am personally turning to prayer and guidance from God and from the Pope and hope that whatever people feel, even if they disagree, they can come together and try to keep an open heart to understand one another. THAT was the purpose of the vigil last night. The fact that the writer of the original post took away from that and spun it to focus on his/her personal agenda is what creates this divide in our world in the first place. But do I blame the writer? No. We are human after all.

  13. Jenna, since you are a “faithful member of St. Mary’s” , please answer my question. Will the pastor and parishioners of St. Mary’s Church invite a priest who is very knowledgeable about Courage/EnCourage to speak at your parish to all interested parishioners about the work of Courage/EnCourage? Will the pastor call St. John’s Seminary and ask for the priest who is in charge of making these arrangements to set up a time for a priest to come to your parish and speak to the parishioners about the work of Courage/EnCourage? Actions speak louder than words.

    • Jenna says:

      Alice, I can not answer your question on behalf of the church as I am not involved in organizing guest speakers.

  14. Jenna: May I humbly ask that you humbly ask your pastor, Fr. Madden, if he will invite a priest from the archdiocese who is designated to inform parishioners about Courage/EnCourage to come to St. Mary’s to speak about the work of Courage/EnCourage? I know that there is a priest who is very well prepared to do this. Please let us know Fr. Madden’s response. Thank you for this work of mercy in advance.

  15. chris says:

    I am a lesbian. I am a mother of four adopted special needs children and one child conceived our of wedlock. I am an educated woman with a job serving the public. And I am a proud and long standing member of St.Mary’s church in Foxboro. I attended the Peace Vigil last night with my partner. We were there to pray for peace for the disenfranchised and victimized groups of people with our spiritual community where we are loved, welcomed, and included.
    Father Steve and Deacon Paul spoke and prayed with us as imperfect sinners opening our hearts to the love of Christ. In fact, that is what we do every week at St. Mary’s.

    I welcome conversation with the original post. I would like to know more about your fear. I would like to know more about the church you fear losing. Father Steve knows how to reach me. Please reach out to him or Deacon Paul to make a date and time to gather and converse.

  16. Chris, do you know about the work of Courage/EnCourage? If you do not know, then why are you not finding out? Are you afraid that the way of Courage may lead you to the way of God’s plan for human sexuality but you fear this way? Do you believe that God is with you through all difficulties in your path to His redeeming salvation? God be with you as you search for His way! Have courage!!

  17. AnneHK says:

    I am amazed that the initial blog from the misguided, fearful, and closed-minded anonymous individual who posted his/her concerns about the planned vigil for peace at St. Mary’s Church, including his/her unjust criticism of Father Steve and Deacon Paul [who are two of the most caring, welcoming, and BEST homilists given all the Masses which I have attended during my many years of travel], has so misrepresented the intent of the vigil for peace. I am also challenged that anyone would dare to dictate for what and for whom we should pray. The vigil did not exclude what the initial blogger thinks we should pray for but expanded on:
    “The Prayer Of Petition Should Be Offered For All
    We are to pray for all mankind, without exception of enemies, nation or religion; for every man, be he enemy, stranger or infidel is our neighbor, whom God commands us to love, and for whom, therefore, we should discharge a duty of love, which is prayer. To the discharge of this duty the Apostle exhort: when he says: I desire that prayer be made for all men. In such prayers we should first ask for those things that concern spiritual interests, and next for what pertains to temporal welfare.”

    One of the goals of the vigil was to pray for those unable or unwilling to open their hearts and their minds to those who are outside the “norm;” I think the individual should consider attending the next vigil, which I hope is offered again and in fact, should be replicated by all the parishes in the archdiocese and ideally all the parishes in the United States; finally, I think that if this individual chooses to pray elsewhere, he/she is encouraged to do so. But we who choose to be part of the community at St. Mary’s Church in Foxboro, MA will continue to pray for you and your “conversion of heart” as well.

    As to Ms. Slattery, I hope you will come to appreciate and understand that “Chris” has every right to be with her partner, in a loving relationship, and supported by her Catholic faith and church community. She does not need our prayers to change who she is but rather our prayers that she and her partner know that they are loved for WHO they are – most welcome members of the St. Mary’s community AND the Catholic Church.

    Why are you all so afraid of those who are different?? Why are you so critical of facing the real issues in this world? We can’t isolate ourselves from what is going on in the ‘secular” world. Would you not agree that this vigil was so needed, given the number and extent of wars going on throughout the world, terrorism, abduction of women and children into lives of slavery and oppression, domestic violence, racial profiling, discrimination based on color, race, gender, sexuality, and the inability to engage in dialogue – between so many of us and even at the highest levels of governments.

    I think many of us parishioners would agree that the criticism of Father Steve and Deacon Paul is one-sided and unwarranted. But you have the right to your opinion. I suggest, however, that you are unique in your criticism of these two caring, holy, compassionate, articulate, genuinely good men. We need more vigils. We need more Father Steves and Deacon Pauls. And yes, we need more dialogue, not to change minds but rather to open them.

    • DebbieS says:

      AnneHK, all I can really say is AMEN! Thank you for your eloquent thoughts.

    • For those who take issue with the original blog post, please read Cardinal O’Malley’s 2005 pastoral letter on homosexuality. You can find a link and specific passage excerpted here.

      https://bostoncatholicinsider.wordpress.com/2014/09/14/cardinal-omalley-2005-moral-teachings-absent-from-crux-launch-event/

      “In the Gospel when the self-righteous Pharisees bring the adulteress to be stoned, Jesus says let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Then to make sure they got the point Jesus wrote their sins on the ground. The stones fell from their hands and they fled. Jesus said: “Neither do I condemn you”, but He added, “Go and sin no more.”

      If we tell people that sex outside of marriage is not a sin, we are deceiving people. If they believe this untruth, a life of virtue becomes all but impossible. Jesus teaches that discipleship implies taking up the cross each day and following Him with love and courage.

      It is never easy to deliver a message that calls people to make sacrifices or to do difficult things. Sometimes people want to punish the messenger. For this reason we priests at times find it difficult to articulate the Church’s teaching on sexual morality. It is important to express the moral teachings of the Church with clarity and fidelity. We must teach the truths of the Gospel in season and out of season. These recent times seem to us like it is “out of season”, but for that very reason it is even more urgent to teach the hard words of the Gospel today.

      We know that friends and relatives of homosexual Catholics sometimes feel torn between their allegiance to Christ and their concern for their loved ones. I assure them that these goals are not incompatible. Calling people to embrace the cross of discipleship, to live the commandments and at the same time assuring them that we love them as brothers and sisters can be difficult. Sometimes we are told: “If you do not accept my behavior, you do not love me.” In reality we must communicate the exact opposite: “Because we love you, we cannot accept your behavior.” ”

      For those at St Marys who take issue with the original blog post, please let us know if Fr Steve ever delivered this message? Was it delivered during the Saturday prayer vigil? To the person who identified herself as a lesbian, have you ever had a discussion with Fr Steve or any priest who told you the above? If you or others are engaged in homosexual activity, are you unconcerned about living in a state of mortal sin and unconcerned about the salvation of your soul and/or those of your children?

      For those who say the prayer vigil on Saturday was beautiful, your own descriptions suggest our concerns were valid. Was there prayer for the conversion of sinners? Was there prayer for the intention of Catholics persecuted for their faith? Or was there just prayer that everyone love and respect each other? (Even though love means saying tough things to those you love, which Jesus obviously did)

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    • Jenna says:

      Thank you Anne! Well said!

    • Concerned Parent says:

      “As to Ms. Slattery, I hope you will come to appreciate and understand that “Chris” has every right to be with her partner, in a loving relationship, and supported by her Catholic faith and church community. ”

      ———–

      Objective fact: Those who reject ANY of the teachings of the Church founded by Jesus Christ do not possess the Catholic faith.

      Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, Sess. 8, Nov. 22, 1439, ex cathedra: “Whoever wishes to be saved, needs above all to hold the Catholic faith; unless each one preserves this whole and inviolate, he will without a doubt perish in eternity.”

      “Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat.” Matthew 7:13

      Catechism of the Catholic Church #2357 “… Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.”142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

      The only thing Catholics who point out these truths are “afraid of” is that those who deliberately choose to live in defiance of the teachings of the Church founded by Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, will lose their souls.

  18. I suspect that if Fr. Madden invited a priest who is prepared to speak to the parishioners about the way of Courage, that some of the parishioners,including some who have expressed their beliefs on this website regarding their approval of the actions of those who choose to engage in same-sex sex acts,and even call this behavior “marriage”, would react very angrily toward Fr. Madden if he did have a priest who could explain the work of Courage come to speak at St. Mary’s. The attempt to silence anyone who desires to learn about Courage/EnCourage has been an action that has become more and more evident in the Boston Archdiocese.
    Pope Francis has warned us of “False Compassion”. Expressing hatred for the Courage way of the Catholic Church and being determined to silence those who believe in the way of Courage is not coming from a loving heart. It comes under the guise of “compassion” which is really false compassion. Deceiving parishioners concerning God’s plan for human sexuality by claiming that same-sex sex practitioners are expressing true marital love and demanding that all Catholics approve of the same-sex sex act as being the ‘marital act’ is not an act of love, but rather,it is an attempt to deceive parishioners. It is false compassion. It is not an act of love. Helping parishioners to learn what God’s plan for human sexuality really is ,is true love.
    Read the encyclical of St. Pope John Paul II, Veritatis Splendor(Splendor of the Truth). This encyclical will help you to see how the kind of deception by false compassion that is preventing parishioners from learning what true love and marriage is , is being perpetrated upon parishioners in our archdiocese.. Please do not support this deception.

  19. Capt Crunch says:

    ok, the Catholics that attended a prayer service that promoted tolerance, understanding and peace show up and attack other Catholics that disagree with a prayer service due to the obvious incompatibility with some of the items on the agenda that are in conflict with the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

    By their fruits you shall know them…

    • Very nicely expressed!

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      • chris says:

        There has been no attack from the supporters of the Prayer Vigil on anyone or their opinions. I welcomed a face to face conversation but have not been contacted for such meeting. I have no intention of attacking anyone not have I done so to date.

    • Capt Crunch says:

      Chris,

      Do you feel these comments are in the spirit of the vigil?

      AnneHK says:
      January 4, 2015 at 5:07 pm
      “misguided, fearful, and closed-minded anonymous individual”

      Rebecca says:
      January 4, 2015 at 10:50 am
      ” hateful. How UN-Christ-like”

      chris says:
      January 4, 2015 at 3:15 pm
      “afraid”

      there may be others….

      These types of responses are systemic in the parishes Archdiocese of Boston when people try to talk about the Catholic faith.

      As a somewhat regular poster on BCI and, as I’ve stated before, when Cardinal O’Malley has an open forum in Braintree I’ll be there to address the issues. And, as last time, somebody from the archdiocese will probably respond with an anonymous snarky remark.

      Until that time events like the prayer vigil at St Mary’s, and other events mentioned here, are just a symptom of the bigger problem in the Archdiocese. Folks like yourself and your family are being mislead by the leaders that should be guiding you; you are the victims whether you realize it or not.

      With respect to your response above about fear as well as the others that suggest disagreement involves closed minded Chris… The comments against the vigil have nothing to do with fear or being close minded they are about truth, Catholic truth as defined in the Catechism. The assumption that these comments are based on fear and are closed minded are presumptuous and, quite frankly, unfair.

      If you do not accept the Catholic faith no one is forcing you to be Catholic. The only fear here is from the people that refuse to discuss the Catholic truth and in the process are putting others eternal life at risk.

      Over and out…

  20. Alex Silva says:

    This blog post is extremely misguided.

    I am a parishioner at St. Mary’s and this post loses ALL credibility with this comment “The pastor is Fr. Steven Madden, known for constantly citing the New England Patriots in his homilies.” What the heck is wrong with that? Every parish I’ve ever belonged to has always made comments here and there about local sports team. The fact that St. Mary’s is in Foxboro (you know, the home of the Patriots) it’s not surprising Fr Steve makes short comments here and there about the team.

    I am flabbergasted that anyone would complain about praying to be free of prejudice and fear of difference. Fr Steve did NOT condone homosexuality. It’s clear what the Church’s teaching is on that. It’s a sin but we should not hate the sinner. Everyone should be welcomed.

    I don’t know why homosexuality is singled out and specifically being attacked here. Alice keeps talking about having a group come to St. Mary’s to talk about homosexuality. What about people engaged in sex out of wedlock? What about people living together but not married? What about people using birth control? What about those divorced and remarried but still receiving communion? I guarantee you the majority of parishioners fall into one of these buckets (I’m not saying it’s right at all, but it’s reality. I hope in time things change). But why singling out homosexuality?

    I see nothing wrong with praying for freedom from prejudice and fear of difference. We are not praying for the Church to change its teaching on homosexuality.

    My family has only lived in Foxboro for 1 year but we feel like we have been members of St. Mary’s parish for many, many years. Father Steve and Deacon Paul welcomed us in right from the start and made us feel right at home.

    • Revoltron1 says:

      All of your arguments are valid, and correct. We are all sinners. I think that the issue with homosexuality, however, is pushed to the forefront by current forces in the political and social spheres. Everybody should be welcomed into the Church. Everybody. But the Church should not be a place where political agendas are pushed, especially when those agendas contradict Catholic teaching. What separates homosexuals from those using contraception, or those unmarried people living together, or those divorced and remarried who are receiving communion, is the fact that the latter are not pushing a political agenda that uses the term “pride” to describe itself. The latter, for the most part, do not openly flaunt their lifestyles, while the former are constantly being told by the media and society that what their lifestyle is okay, and should be accepted, and should actively push for acceptance and normalization of this lifestyle within all social arenas, especially the “close-minded” Catholic Church. When many traditional Catholics hear the political buzzwords “tolerance, acceptance”, etc spoken by the priest they immediately associate this with the propaganda that is being spewed on a daily basis by the media, and feel threatened that this propaganda has entered into the Church and is being parroted by a priest. I don not know Father Steve or Deacon Paul, and I am sure they know and love their parishioners, but from an outside perspective this is what has people alarmed.

      I live in NYC and stopped going to my neighborhood church about a year ago because it was literally taken over by homosexuals. At first, I said to myself, “who am I to judge?” I do not know what is in their hearts. But after many months of internal conflict and deliberation within my own heart, I began to realize that this was not about “tolerance” or “acceptance” on my part, but a hostile takeover on theirs. I was really beating myself up over this. Gay couples made up about half of the attendance. Their deliberate, obnoxious, in-your-face behavior screamed, “this is all about me, and we are here whether you like it or not.” I tried to be understanding, but in the end came to the conclusion that THEY gloatingly viewed it as a conquest, a victory, with the full support of the priest, who I strongly suspect, after careful observation, is an active homosexual himself. I have nothing against homosexuals, but this was an abomination. To me it would be the equivalent of those parishioners who do use contraception passing out condoms in the aisles of the church while Mass is being celebrated, or divorced and remarried couples or those not married but living together passing out pamphlets supporting their lifestyle in the pews under the direction of the priest.

    • Alex,
      Thank you for your comments. We will respond in several parts to your comments. First, if you are turned off by our comment about Fr. Steve’s frequent references to the New England Patriots at Mass, perhaps it is the case that you have been conditioned to see the Mass as serving a purpose other than what it is intended to serve. Are we talking about the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass? Holy Mass is an sacrifice in which the Son of God is sacrificed anew on the cross. Vatican II puts the Catholic position succinctly:

      At the Last Supper, on the night he was betrayed, our Savior instituted the Eucharistic Sacrifice of his Body and Blood. He did this in order to perpetuate the sacrifice of the cross throughout the centuries until he should come again, and so to entrust to his beloved spouse, the Church, a memorial of his death and resurrection: a sacrament of love, a sign of unity, a bond of charity, a paschal banquet in which Christ is consumed, the mind is filled with grace, and a pledge of future glory is given to us” (Sacrosanctum Concilium 47).

      Consider the following written by St. Leonard of Port Maurice about the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass:

      III. The principal excellence of the most Holy Sacrifice of the Mass consists in being essentially, and in the very highest degree, identical with that which was offered on the Cross of Calvary: with this sole difference, that the Sacrifice on the Cross was bloody, and made once for all, and did on that one occasion satisfy fully for all the sins of the world; while the Sacrifice of the Altar is an unbloody sacrifice, which can be repeated an infinite number of times, and was instituted in order to apply in detail that universal ransom which Jesus paid for us on Calvary. So that the bloody Sacrifice was the instrument of redemption; the unbloody is that which puts us in possession: the one threw open the treasury of the merits of Christ Our Lord; the other affords the practical use of that treasury. And, therefore, observe that in Mass there is made not a mere representation, nor a simple commemoration of the Passion and Death of the Redeemer, but there is performed, in a certain true sense, the selfsame most holy act which was performed on Calvary. It may be said, with all truth, that in every Mass Our Redeemer returns mystically to die for us, without really dying, at one and the same time really alive and as it were slain—–vidi Agnum stantem tamquam occisum, “I saw a Lamb standing as it were slain” (Apoc. v. 6). On the anniversary day of the holy Nativity there is represented by the Church the birth of the Lord, but Our Lord is not then born. On the day of the Ascension and on the day of Pentecost, there are shadowed forth the ascent of the Lord to Heaven, and the coming of the Holy Spirit down to the earth; yet it is by no means true that, as each of these days comes round, the Lord again ascends to Heaven, or the Holy Spirit visibly descends to earth. But the same cannot be said of the mystery of Holy Mass, for in it there is made no simple representation of a bygone event, but the selfsame Sacrifice is unbloodily made which, with the shedding of Blood, was made upon the Cross. That same Body, that same Blood, that same Jesus Who then offered Himself upon Calvary, now offers Himself in the Holy Mass. Opus, says the Church, opus nostrae redemptionis exercetur (Orat. s. in Mis. Dom. 9, post Pent). Yes; exercetur; in Mass there is effected, there is continuously practised, that same Sacrifice which was made upon the Cross. Oh, awful, solemn, and stupendous work

      VI. You are surprised, perhaps, to hear me speak of the Mass as a stupendous work. But what tongue, human or angelic, may ever describe a power so immeasurable as that exercised by the simplest priest in Mass? And who could ever have imagined that the voice of man, which by nature hath not the power even to raise a straw from the ground, should obtain through grace a power so stupendous as to bring from Heaven to earth the Son of God? It is a greater power than that which would be required to change the place of mountains, to dry up seas, and to turn round the heavens; it even emulates, in a certain manner, that first fiat with which God brought all things out of nothing, and in some sort would seem to surpass that other fiat with which the sweet Virgin drew down into her bosom the Eternal Word. She did nothing else than supply matter for the body of Christ—–made indeed from her and her most pure blood, but not by her, in the sense of her own potential act. But altogether different, and most marvellous, is the sacramental manner in which the voice of the priest, operating as the instrument of Christ, reproduces Him, and does so as often as he consecrates.

      We get that the Pats are local. So what? If Fr. Steve wants to talk about them before or after Mass, at a social hour or other parish function, that’s fine. Given the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is when the Son of God is sacrificed anew on the cross for our sins, on exactly what basis do you think it’s appropriate to throw in references to the local football team? For your entertainment value? To grab the attention of a football-minded “audience” at Mass so that Mass is more “fun” and enjoyable for the “audience”?

      You might claim, “Well, it’s just in the homily.” The General Instruction of the Roman Missal tells us, “The Homily is part of the Liturgy and is strongly recommended, for it is necessary for the nurturing of the Christian life. It should be an exposition of some aspect of the readings from Sacred Scripture or of another text from the Ordinary or from the Proper of the Mass of the day and should take into account both the mystery being celebrated and the particular needs of the listeners.”

      Most priests, justifiably so, try to relate the scriptural readings to the everyday lives of the faithful gathered for Mass. But assuming we agree the homily is the time when God speaks to the people through interpretation of the Scriptures just proclaimed, then we should also agree it is not a time for the priest to entertain or regularly take from God’s time to comment on the latest from the local football team. Surely you can see how that would take away from the desired focus on Christ’s sacrificing himself on the cross so that we can be saved from our sins.

      Other readers have commented on the homosexuality issue. We will respond to that separately.

      • JD says:

        Let me ask you a question “bostoncatholicinsider”, have you ever been to a mass at St. Mary’s? If you had you would know that Fr. Steve has never mentioned the patriots during his homilies. As it was previously stated, on a rare OCCASION, he has mentioned the Patriots after closing prayer when he dismisses the congregation by simply saying “Go Pats”. With that said it is comments made without merit such as the one you made that totally discredits your plea.

      • JD, We spoke to a former parishioner who gave us this information based in being in the parish for a number of years. Perhaps this was in the past and he has changed in recent years. If so, will be glad to issue a correction on that point, which was a minor one. We find it noteworthy that none of the people who criticized the post have responded to our questions in response to their criticism.

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    • David S. says:

      Alex,

      Let me ask you the same question I posed to Jenna.

      Do you accept the teaching of Church as defined the Humanae Vitae? In other words, do you believe that all acts of artificial birth control, witthout exception, between a married Catholic couple are a mortal sin?

    • May I invite you to consider that the reason why homosexuality is ‘singled out’ is because Fr. Madden had sexual oppression on his bullet list.

      Was there an hour reserved for Catholic women feeling oppressed by the prohibitions on birth control or the divorced and remarried?

      Here’s another question: Why isn’t Fr. Madden including Catholics who are hated for their belief in Church teaching on human sexuality?

      They are oppressed by people who won’t cross the street to order their cake or drive a mile down the road to hold their wedding at another venue when Catholics can’t hold a person’s hand through their own spiritual suicide? They are being denied earning a living for their family to save their soul.

  21. JUSTYN TYME says:

    The bottom line in all this is: GOD and SOULS!! The greatest need in the Roman Catholic Church TODAY is the CONVERSION OF THE CLERGY: Bishops/Priests to the Lordship of Jesus Christ in their Personal Lives and Sacramental/Pastoral Ministry! I propose
    a way to facilitate that process is to begin withholding $$$$ from
    those Bishops/Priests Dioceses/Parishes that do not subscribe
    to the teachings of the Church as formulated in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. $$$ is the only language they really understand. Stop complaining and STOP FUNDING HERESY!

    • Alex Silva says:

      I will continue funding St Mary’s. They have taught nothing inconsistent with the CCC. Here is an excerpt

      “2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.”

      • Capt Crunch says:

        Alex, I’m afraid your post above is incorrect. Supporting CCC 2358 at the expense of the other articles of the CCC is why other Catholics have objected. It’s about Catholicism not a personal or secular agenda. Please review the paragraphs immediately around 2358 which you quoted.

        “2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.” They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

        2358 (cited above)

        2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.

        2360 Sexuality is ordered to the conjugal love of man and woman. In marriage the physical intimacy of the spouses becomes a sign and pledge of spiritual communion. Marriage bonds between baptized persons are sanctified by the sacrament.”

        It is obviously people with SSA should be accepted and made to feel welcome! And Father Madden and his staff should be commended for that. Now that they have allowed them to feel comfortable at St Mary’s, providing support in a Catholic approved manner is the rest of their job as ministers to the faithful, i.e. the spiritual acts of mercy. That logic applies to all the other groups of people you mentioned in your initial post, divorced. abused, handicapped, discriminated against, not just people with SSA.

        It is quite clear from the posts in this thread that parishioners of St Mary blatantly disregard CCC 2357, 2359. Therein lies the problem.

        Catholicism is not about confirming people in their sins, it’s about bringing sinners into the Church and teaching them how to live in an imperfect world in an imperfect condition and conform to God’s will.

      • Alex,
        Please read the comment from Concerned Parent, and be sure you are considering all aspects of what the Catechism and Catholic Church teaches about this issue:

        “Catechism of the Catholic Church #2357 “… Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.”142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.”

        The way it was promoted, the flyer said an hour of the vigil was to pray to be free from fear of difference based on sexuality. In other words, pray to be more accepting of those who engage in depraved intrinsically disordered, gravely sinful and immoral acts.

        People declare themselves to be “gay” or “lesbian.” Even if they have an attraction to someone of the same sex, they do not have to act on it sexually. Many in that situation live chaste lives and do not label themselves as “gay” or engage in that lifestyle. Those who declare themselves to be “gay” or “lesbian” and engage in sexual activity with someone of the same sex are electing to engage in gravely immoral behavior. Exactly why do you believe we should hold a vigil to pray to be free from fear of difference of those who engage in such activity? Furthermore, if there was no planned time during the 7-hour vigil to pray for the conversion of sinners (including those engaged in the sins of abortion, euthanasia, homosexual activity, adultery, pornography, murder, persecution of Christians, and lots more), then why exactly do you feel it was preferable to pray to be free from fear of difference of those who engage in sinful activity? That simply makes no sense logically, let alone theologically.

        Please also read the latest response from Capt Crunch (8:34am). BCI will merely paraphase one part of what Capt Crunch said. It’s clear that Fr. Steve and the parish staff do a fine job of welcoming all. That is great. But Catholicism is not just about welcoming and confirming people in their sins. Rather, it’s about bringing sinners into the Church and teaching them how to to live their lives in conformance with God’s will in an imperfect world in an imperfect condition. There is no evidence of this in the promotion of the 7-hour vigil or in anything that St. Mary’s parishioners have posted here in comments.

  22. In keeping with the teachings of the Catholic Church which are made clear in the above comments of Capt. Crunch, the mission of bringing this light of the faith is cut off and cast aside by those who are determined to force their agenda of supporting the promotion of same-sex sex acts as their “RIGHT”, and want the Catholic way of Courage/EnCourage silenced. Those engaged in promoting this false “compassion”agenda claim that anyone who disagrees with them is to be condemned and sanctioned. The most flagrant case of this attempt to bring this false belief into the Catholic church in our archdiocese can be seen by the attempt advertised by a Boston Catholic church inviting parishioners to come to the 6 o’clock Mass on Nov.24,2014 to hear Pam Garramone,the executive director of Boston PFLAG,”to learn about PFLAG’s remarkable work”. (St. Cecilia’s Rainbow Ministry,Nov. 12,2014). Pam Garramone’s “work” includes indoctrinating our public school children in the PFLAG agenda. Yet, when the Boston Archdiocese asks pastors to have speakers who will explain about the Catholic way of Courage/EnCourage, this effort is condemned by those who demand that this Catholic way be silenced.

  23. Chris Mac says:

    Alice, I don’t know if the PFLAG invitation is “the most flagrant case of this attempt to bring this false belief into the Catholic Church in our archdiocese.” We have so many contenders in this category.

    Fr. Austin Flemming put the names of a same-sex couple on a plaque down in the parish basement for giving money to convert it from a chapel to a cafe. The two men and their adopted children are honored as a family, both on the plaque and in the parish directory.

    Then there is the ever-popular Fr. Walter Cuenin and his pink altar cloth and rainbow flag at the Brandeis chapel.

    The activist Sisters of St. Joseph hosted a “community ordained woman priest” at a prayer service/liturgical dance performance a few years ago at their motherhouse. That “priest” was also living in a lesbian relationship.

    If you want to count the nonsense that the Jesuits teach at Boston College that really tips the scales. Don’t forget, the Jesuits gave political cover to the legislature to pass same-sex marriage through testimony back in the day.

    Fr. Ron Coyne, Fr. Steve Josoma… I don’t have time to list everything or everything.

    • Chris Whittle says:

      The Archdiocese of Boston has more than sexual morality problems. I will be happy the day a new archbishop is enthroned and cleans up all these messes. (That is one who actually says Pontifical High Masses.)

  24. DebbieS says:

    WOW. All I can say is the God I love is all inclusive and loves everyone. I am a divorced Catholic. Divorced through no fault of mine. I jumped through all the hoops 36 yrs ago to try and get an annulment including written testimony from my Parish priest. Right before the final decision was rendered I received a request stating before my annulment could be granted by the Tribunal I needed to send another check in the amount of $3000.00. Since I did not have that kind of money I could not go through with it.
    I am one of those “sinners” you all talk about as I do receive communion. When I see members of my parish who I know to be liars, cheaters, abusive and soooo much more get up and receive communion as according to you all only “GOOD” Catholic’s should be allowed to do. The Church continues to to lose more and more parishioners because of the exact dogma that has been spouted here. I continue and will continue to support Father Steve and Deacon Paul. God Bless both of these men and our Pope who sees love and goodness in everyone.

    • Concerned Parent says:

      “I am one of those “sinners” you all talk about as I do receive communion. When I see members of my parish who I know to be liars, cheaters, abusive and soooo much more get up and receive communion as according to you all only “GOOD” Catholic’s should be allowed to do. The Church continues to to lose more and more parishioners because of the exact dogma that has been spouted here. ”

      —————-

      To disparage Catholic Dogma is to trivialize the Truths which have been revealed to us by God.

      “But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil. ” Matthew 5:37

      If you are deliberately receiving the Body and Blood of Christ while immersed in a lifestyle forbidden by God because you believe your neighbors are doing likewise, you are making a terrible mistake. “For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord.” 1 Corinthians 11:29

      Christ, “the way, the truth and the life” must be our standard, not the behavior of our neighbors, and He tells us, “Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect”.

    • Annulled in Boston says:

      DebbieS,

      Are you saying that the Archdiocese of Boston wanted you to pay three thousand dollars to get an annulment? I find that difficult to believe. I had an annulment in Boston 33 years ago (Fr. Rodney Copp was the Judge) and the fee was three HUNDRED not three THOUSAND dollars. And even that they were willing to waive for financial hardship.

    • Fr. J. says:

      DebbieS,
      I am saddened to hear that you went through the annulment process many years ago and were asked to pay $3,000 to get a final decision. That’s not how it works locally here in Boston today. The total processing fees are $750 payable up-front or over time, but if you can’t afford that cost, you can ask for a waiver and it will be granted. You might want to consider re-filing for an annulment if cost is still an issue.

      See: http://www.bostoncatholic.org/Offices-And-Services/Office-Detail.aspx?id=14736&pid=1408

      At the beginning of the process, a fee of $700.00 will be asked of the person who introduced the request for a Tribunal study. An affordable monthly payment plan may be established. In deference to the people of the Archdiocese of Boston who subsidize the Tribunal budget through their contributions, we believe it is just that those who avail themselves of the services of this office assist in some of its financial expenses. The fees collected are used to operate the Church court.

      There is also a non-refundable filing charge of $50.00, required upon application for a Tribunal study.

      If for any reason one cannot afford to pay all or part of the final fee, an explanation to the Tribunal will ensure that the case will be processed. At no time should financial embarrassment discourage any person from exercising the right to receive a just hearing from the Church. One’s ability or inability to pay a fee in no way affects the progress or outcome of a request.

      Good luck and God bless!

      • DebbieS says:

        Fr. J thank you for your reply. I still have all the paperwork that was sent to the Tribunal and yes my first amount as $750.00. I was constantly asked for more evidence from my therapist, family members and even more from my priest the late amazing Fr. John Mahoney. He stood by me for 18 months of hell encouraging me to work on the marriage, therapy, marriage counseling and very long painful talks with him. At the end of that time I knew I could no longer accept the verbal and physical abuse as well as his cheating. When I told Fr. John I could no longer do this and I was filing for divorce….he cried with me. He told me he knew it would have taken a miracle but he had to counsel me in the ways of the Church. It was then that he said I had to protect myself and my children. He walked the path with me during the divorce and during the process with the Tribunal. I am telling the truth when I say it was a request for additional funds. I didn’t have it then and I certainly don’t have it now at 62.
        I have remained faithful to my beliefs, to my love for God and to my commitment to Fr. Steve. I was lucky enough to have one Parish priest come into my life who understood life is not cut and dry, nor black and white who embraced and lived his life as Jesus would. Now I again have been blessed with another Pastor who is open, loving, spiritual in every way possible and I for one will not all the kind of vicious attack on him nor Deacon Paul. Shame on all of you for your disputable words. What would Jesus do….ask us to forgive and pray for you. So that is what I will do!

      • Concerned Parent says:

        “Now I again have been blessed with another Pastor who is open, loving, spiritual in every way possible and I for one will not all the kind of vicious attack on him nor Deacon Paul.”

        —————-

        The bulletin provided as documentation for BCI’s post falsely conflates homosexuality with victimhood. This is a common tactic used to promote the sinful homosexual agenda, and it’s hardly a “vicious attack” to voice concerns regarding the inclusion of such a false characterization at a Catholic prayer vigil.

  25. Lucille says:

    Jesus said that He came to heal the sick, the sinners. We are all sinners. Let this reality humble us.
    I feel that your comments about the vigil are totally misunderstood. We are not praying that sin be accepted, we are praying that God’s people, our brothers and sisters in Christ be accepted as children of God. “Love the sinner, not the sin.” Do you yourself not have sins that need to be forgiven? Remember, when we point a finger at others, four fingers are pointing back at us.
    In defense of Father Steve, we are blessed to have him as a pastor. He lives and works for you and me, for the entire Foxboro community. He helps many, Catholic and non-Catholic and I can safely assume that he helps others out of his own resources.
    I have heard many a homily by Father Steve and I don’t see the Patriots being the center of what he is talking about. He doesn’t even mention them that often.
    I encourage you to sit down with Father Steve and to get to know him as a person and as a priest.

    • Catholic Father says:

      I followed the links and read the bulletin notice and looked at the flyer. The bulletin says, “Seven hours to express our desire to be free of prejudice and fear of difference….Seven hours to express our solidarity with those who, because they are different, live every day with anxiety, fear, humiliation, and
      anger.” The flyer says 8pm “Vigil for those Hated Because of Sexuality.” My read is that the vigil, or at least the 8pm hour of it, was promoted as praying to help people like “me” be free from fear of prejudice, fear of difference, (and add to that perhaps dislike and judgment of) gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people who engage in immoral, sinful, and frankly unhealthy sexual activity that goes against natural law and God’s desire for us, and who ask for tolerance but often try to force their views upon me, my children’s school and the Catholic Church by labeling me an intolerant bigot or homophobe.

      I have no problem praying for the sinner. But this vigil was asking for prayers essentially that I would be more “tolerant” of those who commit gravely immoral, sinful acts. Why not throw in tolerance and being free from fear of difference from child molesters or adulterers or those who engage in child pornography? They are different too? Exactly which categories of people who commit gravely sinful and immoral acts on an ongoing basis and characterize themselves as such by their public identity do you feel we should be praying for tolerance and fear of difference of?

  26. Lucille and Debbie, Will you support Fr. Madden if he invites a priest who is very knowledgeable about the way of Courage/EnCourage to explain this way which is the way of our Catholic faith to help those who are seeking the way in the light of the Catholic Church? This is a simple question and deserves an answer. The pastor of a Catholic church needs your support to continue his work as a Catholic priest. It is his job to teach the way of the Catholic faith. If someone acted against your good will and caused you great pain and doubting your faith, it could have been because the person who deceived you was not made aware of the way of the Catholic faith. That is a very sad and reflects on the negligence of priests who are required to instruct the ignorant. Do you support your pastor in his responsibility to instruct the ignorant?

  27. Stephen says:

    I am not a lesbian, and if you care; neither am I a golfer.
    I am not prejudice. I do not pre-judge people, I wait until I get to know them first a little, then I judge them. If I meet somebody and they tell me up-front that they ‘are a lesbian’ it communicates nothing more than what they are ‘into’ sexually. Personally, I find this to be in bad taste.

    This whole ‘queers in the church thing’ has run its course has it not? Can these people keep this stuff in the confessional for heaven sake? Catholic children at the age of reason have for centuries been directed as to the appropriate things that Catholics are allowed to do with ‘their junk’ until marriage. Bad habits or adventures in adolescence carry less culpability for the sinner – thank God. In our Post Vatican 2 quasi-catholic world where anything goes, unrepentant sinners are encouraged to nurture their carnal desires. It leads to eternal damnation. Sexual activity outside of the sacramental state of marriage (Duh, traditional) is always illicit. I’m sorry If I have hurt anybodies feelings with this post.

    PS. For the hugging army of church ladies. This is exactly what your husband; whom you can’t seem to get to Mass; is thinking.

    • Stephen says:

      Note to self:
      This is the year when I begin to absolutely never take any of this deviant sexual foolishness seriously again.

      http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/two-men-who-fell-love-4933751

      The photos are absolutely priceless.

      I hope there is no transgendophobia in the house that would suggest these sweethearts are not ‘real’ lesbians.
      Who am I to judge?

      IT IS CALLED “DEVIANCE THEORY” INVENTED IN A HARVARD THINK TANK. IT ANSWERS THE QUESTION: How do we continue the moral slide/ power grab without slamming up against natural law?

      That is enough beating with the stupid stick –
      Carry on sheeple.

  28. Jim says:

    The priest who always talked about the Patriots has not been at St Mary’s for five years. In fact he is dead!!

  29. It would be a welcome action if pastors, who are misguiding parishioners into thinking that the actions of 2 men and 2 women engaging in same-sex sex acts are actions equivalent to the marital act in the sacrament of marriage and ,therefore, must receive our approval, were required to undergo instruction by Richard Spinello.
    In the Jan.9th issue of The Pilot on p.13, there is an excellent article on the work of Richard Spinello in “A tribute to ‘Love and Responsibility'”. The article notes that ‘Love and Responsibility’ was written by Pope John Paul II and preceded his work on ‘The Theology of the Body’. The article notes that these works “have captured the attention of many young people anxious to escape from the crude portrayal of sexuality offered by contemporary culture.” It would be a great blessing to parishioners if a professor such as Richard Spinello, who teaches at Boston College and St.John’s Seminary, were to instruct pastors and priests who have ignored the teachings of the Catholic Church to now be required to have to finally learn the truth of true complementary giving and love in true marital acts in sacramental marriage. Let us pray that they will be open to becoming true Shepherds to Catholic parishioners.

    • AGuest says:

      Marvelous post, Alice. Bravo.

      • Stephen says:

        Again this high-brow Catholic silliness.
        These pro-sodomite priests know the mechanics. Its GROSS.
        Do you think discussing the theology of it will help? They appear to be comfortable with it.
        Theology of the Body will go down in history as a great door stop.
        Who reads this stuff if it is not ‘required’?
        “My Peep JPII penned it baby, gotta get me a copy”
        Ya sure.
        I think a more effective campaign would be;

        ” If It is unsanitary, deviant or weird go to confession”
        it fits on a bumper sticker and may just keep you out of a lake of fire.

  30. Boston Trad says:

    @bostoncommon, @alex, @jenna, @anne, @chris

    The politicized agenda which you are pursuing under the false cover of tolerant Catholicism is proven to fail, look at what it has done to the Episcopal Church.

    http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Home-Page-News-and-Views/Why-is-the-Episcopal-church-near-collapse.aspx

    The Church does not need to change it’s view to adapt to the culture that is called modernism and many Popes have spoken out against modernism. Adhering to modernism is the cause of the shrinking diocese and will be the ultimate destruction of your parishes.

    “Love not the world, nor the things which are in the world. If any man love the world, the charity of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, is the concupiscence of the flesh, and the concupiscence of the eyes, and the pride of life, which is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the concupiscence thereof: but he that doth the will of God, abideth for ever” (1 St. John 2.15-17)

    The Disciples in Mission program is not the answer take responsibility for yourself, your families and your parishes by returning to real Catholicism.

    Prayerfully consider what the Catholic Church teaches and closely scrutinize what your parish pastors are preaching for yourselves and your families.

  31. Stephen, failing to be open to the merciful light that is shed by Pope John Paul II on the meaning of marriage which is inherent in God’s plan for human sexuality, is at our own loss. His work certainly had to be inspired by the Holy Spirit! While Theology of the Body is very deep, there are authors who have been very helpful in explaining it, such as William E. May,professor of Moral Theology at the Pope John Paul II Institute for Studies on Marriage and Family. The light that is shed from such works is well worth the effort. As the old expression says:”It’s better to light a candle ,than to curse the darkness.”

    • Stephen says:

      Sorry Alice,
      Perhaps required reading for a ‘make work’ DRE but the real world Catholics are busy trying to buy bags of diapers at $45/ bag.

      I’m not a JPII kind of guy
      “…the merciful light that is shed by…”

      I’m more of a St. Anthony of Padua kind
      “Hammer of Heretics”

      Enough is enough. The letter writing campaign is over.
      see http,://www.churchmilitant.tv/platform/?today=2015-01-13
      Men know Men.

      Moving on –
      I have read some and flip through TOB, 600+ pages? get real.
      It has some interesting intellectual gymnastics and some modernist styled spirituality with very questionable purpose other than to sell a tome of a cool Popi-palooza cat, also known as: St. John Paul II. (Whose status as such will be reviewed in the future) It honestly makes me wonder if the Modernist saw to its publication to muddle Catholic thought on marriage and confuse people purposely. (with the assistance of Satan of course)

      My review say’s thumbs way down – its crap.

      Here is Catholic marriage in 8 words.
      “Two become one forever; work out the details”

      A much better Catholic Book and its free;
      http://www.magnificatpress.com/pdf/Penny.pdf

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