Boston’s Holy Trinity Church Up for Sale

We are sad to report (belatedly) that Boston’s beautiful Holy Trinity (German) Church is up for sale. For decades, it was home to the German Catholic community and Traditional Latin Mass.  We wrote about the relegation to profane use of the neo-gothic style 1877 church building back in 2011.  The property went on the market in June, but we never got the chance to report it at the time. Here is the For Sale listing. The Boston Archdiocese believes it could sell for up to $4M to a residential developer.

An anonymous BCI reader submitted the following piece about the fate of Holy Trinity, and we are publishing it unedited.

The Stripping of Holy Trinity Has Begun

The appearance at the Cathedral of the Holy Cross of several items that had belonged to Holy Trinity Church in the South End has signaled the beginning of the stripping of Boston’s historic German church.  When this winter the Archdiocese learned that the Apostolic Signatura had upheld the relegation of Holy Trinity to profane use with no further possibility of appeal, the Rector of the Cathedral, to which all Holy Trinity property now belongs, began to bring items to the Cathedral, most notably the baptismal font, which was used at this year’s Easter Vigil.  Holy Trinity’s former parishioners appreciate the pastoral care they have received from the Rector of the Cathedral and his concern to find suitable homes for the religious items.

Overall, however, the Archdiocese is the poorer – much poorer – both spiritually and financially for the closure.

Is There Room for God in the New South End?

In the increasing spiritual vacuum that is the South End – at least three other churches, both Catholic and Protestant, have been converted to housing there within the last five years – Holy Trinity had a unique draw on young adults who appeared to not be practicing any faith.

One mild Saturday afternoon in December 2005, when parishioners were cleaning the church in preparation for Christmas, a young man and woman passing by gaped through the open doors.  The parishioners cleaning the glass doors in the vestibule – doors etched with the phrase “This is the House of God and Gate of Heaven” – invited the couple inside, but only the young man accepted the invitation.  He walked about the nave in astonishment – he had no idea this church in his neighborhood was so beautiful – and was incredulous at the parishioners’ explanation that the Archdiocese planned to close the church. 

Years later, at the closing Mass in June 2008, a clump of young adults (both men and women) watched the service from folding chairs in the choir loft.  They lived in the neighborhood and “always wanted to see the church.”

More like them are coming to the South End.  According to the Boston Redevelopment Authority web site, the South End will soon hold almost 1900 new condominiums and apartments, including 62 condominiums in the former Immaculate Conception Church, the Jesuit church across from Boston City Hospital.

Shortly after the closure of Holy Trinity, its adjacent neighborhood was re-zoned as an “Economic Development Area.”  The acceptable height of buildings neighboring buildings may now be as high as 150 feet, and the ratio of building size to lot size increased as much as 63%.  An example of this is the 11-story office and retail building that has been approved for development a few hundred feet away from Holy Trinity.  The building’s developer, Ron Druker, also owns the 1-story warehouse immediately to the left of Holy Trinity and the parking lot immediately behind it.  In an area to be transformed into an extension of downtown, is it unreasonable to speculate that he might want to purchase the church and demolish it to build another glass and steel tower on the combined lot?

As things stand now, however, these new residents and office workers will not have the opportunity to worship at Holy Trinity as did generations of South End residents (even those who were not German) before them.

The Costs of Closure

While Holy Trinity Church was open, parishioners paid all expenses, including maintenance and repairs, without any subsidy from the Archdiocese of Boston.  Holy Trinity has since incurred well over $350,000 in expenses merely because it is closed.  The largest of these are property taxes assessed by the City of Boston beginning in 2011, which have totaled $246,708.99 through June 2014.  Maintenance fees, including contracted property management fees with the Newmark Grubb Knight Frank firm and the erection of a barbed-wire fence and other minor repairs due to break-ins by vagrants, are estimated at $125,000 at this time.  (The total was $88,000 as of May 2012.)

Now, the cost of stripping the church can be added to the total.  The removal of some items before they have a buyer, especially the rare stained glass windows, could cost thousands of dollars.  (The high altar and pews have been sold to another Catholic church that will remove them at its own expense.)

Who has paid these expenses?  As announced by the rector in May 2012 parish council meeting, the Cathedral Parish, one of Boston’s poorest, has been forced to assume them by taking a loan, which at the time totaled over $212,000.  The loan would be repaid from proceeds of the sale of Holy Trinity.  In the interim, the debt has been a great strain on the Cathedral Parish.  Note that the Cathedral Grammar School closed in June, 2013; this strain may have been one factor in its closure.

Thus, no one has benefitted financially from the closure of Holy Trinity.  Expenses have been incurred, not eliminated.  Even the City of Boston may not have benefitted; if 15 or more former Cathedral Grammar School students transferred to the Boston Public Schools, the cost of educating them ($17,000 per student according to 2010 figures) would exceed the tax revenues collected from Holy Trinity to date.

The Costs Were Avoidable

Unknown to Holy Trinity parishioners fighting its closure, a vigorous church preservation movement was saving churches around the country, especially in the Midwest.  Over 50 of these groups have been at work since as early as the 1920’s, preserving churches that are in some cases the only building remaining in their now-abandoned town.  One of the most well-known of these, Saint Joseph Shrine in Saint Louis, Missouri, once so dilapidated that the droppings of nesting birds covered pews and statuary, has been completely restored by a preservation group that has raised over $4 million since 1979.  Mass is held there weekly.

As soon as they learned about this movement, Holy Trinity parishioners formed a preservation group in October 2013.  Their plan, modeled on the plans of other preservation groups, was to assume all the maintenance costs of Holy Trinity Church in return for the Archdiocese authorizing one Mass there per year.  When the offer was made by telephone to Fr. Paul Soper, Director of the Office of Pastoral Planning, he rejected it, saying that parishioners needed to “move on.”

Had the plan been implemented at the time of closure, the Cathedral Parish would have incurred no expenses on account of Holy Trinity.  An annual Mass would have eliminated taxation by the City of Boston, as the church would still be in religious use.  A group that was able to gather annually would have collected enough money to pay the property management and maintenance fees.

Although the Holy Trinity’s relegation to profane use was upheld despite the founding of the preservation group, another group has had its church’s relegation to profane use overturned by the Vatican.  The fact that parishioners of Saint Ann’s Church in Buffalo, New York had raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for its preservation was cited by the Congregation for the Clergy (the first appeal step) as evidence that the bishop did NOT have a grave reason to relegate the church to profane use.  Money talks at the Vatican.

Is It Too Late For Holy Trinity?

The best hope for Holy Trinity Church to continue evangelizing in the twenty-first century and for the waste of closure expenses to end is to sell it to a religious order.  They would staff the church and, with the help of the Holy Trinity Restoration Society, bear the maintenance and repair costs of a 135-year-old building.  Proceeds from the sale would repay the loan taken by the Cathedral Parish with the surplus to be used as the rector sees fit.

Anyone interested in this effort is invited to visit Holy Trinity Boston Restoration Society on Facebook and to pray to Our Lady Undoer of Knots:  Novena to Mary, Undoer of Knots

38 Responses to Boston’s Holy Trinity Church Up for Sale

  1. Cathy says:

    The decline of the Catholic church in America thanks to Vatican 2.

  2. D Paul says:

    First, I agree with the previous commenter. From here in St. Louis, it was nice to see a reference to St. Joseph Shrine. In 1979, the Rev. Edward Filipiak, the 80 yr old pastor, was murdered by 3 16 year old poor black youth. They broke in to steal wine and tied him up and beat him to death. One committed suicide and the other 2 served 15 years of a life sentence. In 2012, one was shot to death when he answered the door. This shrine was the scene of a verified miracle. The shrine sits within blocks of City Hall. There is plenty of money being invested to save it. Rehabbed housing has been built around it within a greater desolation of crime and destitution. Jobs have gone and the cycle of poverty has moved North into the County into such areas as Ferguson which is the scene of the riots. If you go South, you find close to 100,000 Bosnians. In neither of these areas will you find a need for a church. As you go into both South and North County, you find plenty of closed parishes. The City of St. Louis sits in a horseshoe surrounded by the Mississippi River. This type of church is expensive to maintain and being replaced by “town hall” style of churches which tell you a lot about the current beliefs of Catholics both here in St. Louis and in other formerly Catholic towns such as Boston.

  3. Joyful Noise says:

    This is heart wrenching. Ironically, the RCAB never makes much on these fire sales when you factor in the resultant debt that the process seems to incur because of their rigidity. This is so sad. No ethnic churches seem to be valued unless they are that of recent immigrants. The umbrella is shrinking but not PC to mention that.

    The justification for the relegation to profane use used over and over by RCAB at the Vatican’s highest court is dire financial circumstances. So, why did the last annual finance report of our RCAB show a 41 million dollar surplus?? What the heck is happening??

  4. Liam says:

    IIRC, the Jesuits expected to profit handsomely from the sale of the Immaculate when the closed it in 2007; but they caught the downdraft of the real estate bust and the property remained unsold for six years, and for a much lower price than the powers that were hoped for at the time of closing. (The guts of the magnificent organ, btw, are in storage at Boston College, IIRC.) The developers will be conserving (if not exactly preserving) what was left of the old sanctuary of the Immaculate, btw; the interior will have tiered dwellings off of an atrium along the center of the old nave, and a common area in the old sanctuary.

    I should add that the old sanctuary of the Immaculate had a rather sophisticated design, especially by the standards of Catholic churches in Boston (it was, in its earlier generations under German Jesuits, relatively “high” in liturgical terms, another Boston rarity in a sea of Low Mass parishes). The vault was a sail dome – like a built-in baldachin – and in its center was a rounded triangular oculus with stained glass of the Holy Spirit descending as a dove. The light through the oculus at solar noon would descend more deeply towards the painting of the Crucifixion over the reredos/altar as the year moved to the summer solstice, close to the time of Corpus Christi and Sacred Heart (which was celebrated with particular splendor at the Immaculate, with the entire sanctuary bathed in flowers courtesy of the Boston flower exchange, I was told). Recall that, in the First Millennium, God the Father was not customarily imaged in Christian iconography, but suggested by light, an all-seeing eye or a hand from a cloud; here, the art relied on that old usage to have the Light of God the Father send the Holy Spirit into the sanctuary over the Real Presence and Real Action of the Son in the Eucharistic Sacrifice, as it were. And the Holy Spirit also welcomes, in the sense, the figure of the BVM ascending to heaven in the fresco at the top of the rear sanctuary wall, as the Holy Spirit descended at the Annunciation. Highly contrapuntal art. (My personal favorite artworks were, however, the chiaroscuro roundels at the end of the two aisles.)

    It was a wonderful space for choral music, far better than some other more common sites in town. Les Artes Florissantes, one of the world’s premier choral groups, loved that space above all others in Boston. If it could not have been saved for worship, it would have made a wonderful space for the many choruses in the Boston area that have sacred music for their principal repertoire.

  5. shattuckgerald . says:


    How do you like your new Pastor?


  6. The Cardinal continues to dismantle the Church of Boston. I can’t believe how the Boston area is so void of Catholic culture.

  7. There is absolutely no reason why the FSSP and ICKSP could not move into this parish and perhaps share it with the Anglican Use/Ordinariate Crowd. None whatsoever and that is what really makes it sickening is they have let the Syro-Malabar’s take over a parish in Framingham. I have no problem with the Syro-Malabars and what happened there. But I’m really irritated with the double standard towards loyal, faithful, and dedicated Latin Mass Catholic by the Archdiocese.

    • Chris Whittle says:

      The major problem is that this (lack of) leadership in the “pastoral center” won’t allow the FSSP or ICKSP, or any other order that requires the permission of the bishop to set up shop here. So they will not have a chance at buying the building. The only hope for use as a Catholic house of worship is the SSPX, provided somebody secretly buys the property on their behalf.

      • tryingtofigurethisout says:

        Chris , they are not in communion… that’s not the answer… the answer is to get the 150 at the 10:30 EF at MI up to around 200 to 220…then we get Father HIggins ( the hardest working priest in the archdiocese as you well know ) some help with a young archdiocesan seminarian, ( there are a couple in there right now with a strong inclination towards the EF ) and start growing it outwards slowly but strongly….

  8. Latin Catholic says:

    Great post, but your too late. I hear the building is SOLD. Closing in October. Big Bucks. Who get the $$$$ Braintree or cathedral.

  9. Pat Schwarz says:

    Why couldn’t this beautiful Church be kept as an historic landmark? Does this happen in other countries? How is it that churches far older than Holy Trinity in Europe stay around for hundreds of years? They don’t tear them down. We are doing to ourselves what the Communists did in Russia to our own beautiful churches. How can they ever be rebuilt? If there is a much hoped for resurgence of the catholic faith, what churches will be left to the people?

  10. Kenneth M. Fisher says:

    And the Cardinal of Boston gets rewarded by big appointments from the Church of Nice! Go figure!

    God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
    May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
    Viva Cristo Rey!
    Kenneth M. Fisher

  11. stephen says:

    Its almost like they have conspired to destroy tradition like some powerful group of heretical modernists or something. Hmm.

  12. tryingtofigurethisout says:

    it is time to move on BCI….and it is time to be productive…. lamenting the closure is fine but it needs to be let go… the real work now is getting all of those who are upset about the closing of holy trinity and who were oriented towards the latin mass out to mary immaculate of lourdes in newton where the best, hardest working priest in the archdiocese is running what is the model of the country for a bi rite parish…mary immaculate needs more parishoners to contribute and be a part of the life there…. holy trinity is gone…. mary immaculate is under seige…. banging away on the keyboard is not going to help keep a holy and reverent novus ordo and a simply stunning extra ordinary mass going… getting the word out and beating the drum for father higgins and mary immaculate will…if anyone chiming in on this topic lives withing 1hour of mary immaculate and you are not a registered parishoner there, you need to take a good hard look in the mirror and do the right thing… honor the legacy of holy trinity, support father higgins and mary immaculate… make it impossible for the RCAB to shut it down!!!!!!! do it… do it now!!!!! or else you next post will be about the sale of Mary Immaculate

    • Joyful Noise says:

      I disagree with tryingtofigurethisout. BCI has served a crucial role in outing this RCAB about finances and reconfig and closures and sales and social agendas. All are inextricably inter-meshed. Have no idea if BCI needs to join any particular parish. Not my decision to make for anyone, nor yours.

      BCI has filled a huge void and I only hope his incisive analysis continues. N.B., at times I do not agree with BCI at all. Nevertheless, this blog is infinitely useful and a wonderful resource for so many concerned Catholics no matter their political/social/religious flavor. It is indeed read as far away as Rome.

      Soooooo, it is important for the dialogue to continue. Without it, we here in RCAB would have the Cardinal’s Blog a/k/a Monologue.

      • I’ve heard a number of people insist former Holy Trinity parishoners are supposed to move to MIL. I don’t understand why. We have the motu proprio and the drive, even if its just a 1/2 hour can be burdensome especially for a big family and may only work for Sunday mass. I’m happy to see the TLM offered in many other parts of the archdiocese including the Cathedral, St. Adelaide’s, and the occasional masses in Cambridge, Somerville, etc.

  13. tryingtofigurethisout says:

    Matt, you a way off…and you contradict yourself….but first…… you are clueless if you think at the present time there is a demand for the EF with an equally important ” stable community ” ( as specified in SP ) in many parts of the archdiocese….. there is not…..St adelaide’s is fine for the north shore….Mary immaculate serves the other side of the city , the western corridor and the south shore….hopefully at some point by the grace of God south of the bourne / cape access bridges something will develop….but for right now it is ST A’s and MI for the latin mass community with families….the other ‘s you cite , the occasional in the cambridge area, are not ” stable “….. how can you expect a family with small children to make that a home parish?…. and the Cathedral? please…in the south end? do you have any familiarity with the realities of the crime in that area? you think people with families are going to come into that crime ridden area when they could drive a few extra minutes to a place like mary immaculate , with a full schola polyphony chant choir who knocks it out of the park every single week, with beautiful grounds, play areas for children after mass, family gatherings after EVERY MASS and a great lower church hall for fellowship… do realize the mass is offered in the dark Basement at the cathedral right?… lament anything more than a half hour drive as burdensome …remember matt, it is the Holy SACRIFICE of the mass…HE sacrificed his life….they used to kill people for attending it at one point in history….it’s too much of a burden to drive 1/2 hour?… stop it……i have 5 children and drive 45 minutes… many of my fellow parishoners have double the amount of children that i do and drive an hour or more…..

    do i wish i could have the EF available in my local territorial parish… of course i do…. but to think that is a good starting point in this issue, to demand that right now, is laughable…..what percentage of the church going catholics do you think actually knows, about, in any way understands, or has any interest at this time, in the EF?….it is tiny my friend….the best way to get that to increase is to bring people into a stable community slowly that has it and then , slowly , patiently , and prayfully hope it will grow…. you are clueless if you think because the MP was issued , that you are going to just go into st xyz parish with a priest who has no knowledge at all of the EF and demand he learn it for 8 people in the territorial parish who want it….the archdiocese is obviously not a great friend of tradition, but they are right not to allow the mass to be celebrated willy nilly by unqualified priests…..that just leads to disaster….make it hard on the archdiocese to kill both st A’s and MI….make the burdensome drive…. do it for the next generation…maybe our sacrifices with pay fruits for them …

    and , matt as i ve said before to BCI, it does no good making fun of the cardinal , with snarky comments on this blog… do you really think that helps things…?i ‘ve got news for you, it doesn’t ,,, it hurts the cause….

    • tryingtofigurethisout – Since when did I make snarky comments about the cardinal? I would have simply ignored your replybut with such an accusation I had to respond.

      I just don’t understand this apparent cult mentality that some people seem to have about MIL. I have nothing against people who go there, but I fail to see why it must be the only place.

      While the archdiocese has not come out and ordered it to be the sole place from the TLM, I can’t help but think some people want to pen up all the trads there as if we were lepers or victims of some other terrible disease.

      The silver lining to Holy Trinity’s closure is that the TLM has spread throughout the diocese as former parishioners have gravitated to other churches and others have come to love the Latin Mass as well. That’s a good thing even if it just means the odd mass at St. Paul’s or some other place. As Fr. Z would say, “Brick by Brick.”

      And with that, I will say no more with regard to this post.

    • Liam says:

      The view of the Cathedral area as beset by crime is quite out of date. The Cathedral is in the middle of the most shocking gentrification of the entire Boston area: what was once a crime-ridden backwater has become filled with million$+ condos, some multi-million$$. And more are on deck. The Cathedral is now surrounded by the secularized moneyed elite more than riff-raff, the housing projects now being a relatively small island in an ocean of wealth.

      • CaptCrunch says:

        I completely agree with Liam’s comments above about the neighborhood and attend the EF at the Cathedral most Sundays. Thank God for the work of Father Taurisi, and the other priests, that say Mass at the Cathedral.

        FWIW, in the time I’ve been at the Cathedral attendance seems to be increasing…

  14. S W says:

    The SSPX offer TLM in Woburn every Sunday morning. There are at least 2 other traditional groups within the diocese who offer the Latin Mass. All three offer valid Masses none are considered licit. There are folks who attend these Masses who are sedavacantists (who believe the seat of Rome is vacant due to the heresies of Vatican 2) This not a dogmatic position, merely a belief and explanation for the situation at hand. Personally I do not hold this belief.

  15. Jack O'Malley says:

    I agree with commenters who have praised Fr. Higgins, a priest who is doing yeoman’s service in support not only of a reverent novus ordo mass but most saliently in support of the True Mass (oddly called the “extraordinary form of the Roman Rite” by Pope Ratzinger who also declared that the motu proprio SP was an “act of toleration” for those attached to that rite). Yes, that Ratzinger who gave Holy Communion to the protestant Roger Schütz at the funeral of Pope Wojtyła. Evidently we are all saved by faith alone.

    Nonetheless, we must remember that this archdiocese under the aegis of the present archbishop is inimical to the Traditional rite and by innuendo and explicit threat menaces its continuance here. O’Malley is to be opposed and deposed if any Divine Justice may be seen to prevail in this paltry outpost of Catholicism. The gates of hell will not prevail everywhere but they can and do prevail with triumph here in Boston. And Bernie Law grows more corpulent by the day. How is that possible?

    As to Mr. Tryingtofigurethisout, perhaps a charitable suggestion might be in order. Until you have indeed figured this out, you might wish to curtail your turgid expostulations, your orthographical and grammatical derelictions, your ludicrous and obtrusive use of the ellipsis, and acquaint yourself with the patent truth that the sacraments of the FSSPX (SSPX) are valid though in some cases illicit (a matter of canon law, upon which I have neither the time nor indeed the inclination to educate you).

    Suffice it to say that if you, Mr. Tryingtofigurethisout, happen to fall into onto the tracks at Park Street Station and are run over by an MBTA train, and if an FSSPX priest administer the Last Rites of the Church (i.e. the Sacrament of Extreme Unction) to you as you expire, you will merit at the least a studio apartment in the Kingdom of the Father. So knock off the contumely.

    Full disclosure: I have never been to an FSSPX mass and am in no way an adherent of their society, which is, strictly speaking, a sacerdotal, not a laical, society. That said, may God bless Archbishop Lefebvre.

    • Liam says:

      SSPX priests are suspended a divinis and confessions administered by them and marriages witnessed by them are invalid, because faculties and jurisdiction are required for validity of those sacraments, and the SSPX cannot credibly arrogate the power to itself to determine that they have them on their own.

      • Liam says:

        Stephen, your link does not address my specific points about confession and matrimony, which require faculties and jurisdiction for validity, unlike baptism or confecting the Blessed Sacrament, which do not. SSPXers who think otherwise are thinking as Protestants would.

      • Liam says:

        I should perhaps add, for those wondering why this is so, that the sacrament of penance has a juridical quality that baptism and the Blessed Sacrament do not, and matrimony in the Roman tradition also took on certain juridical qualities for other reasons, so it’s in that context that these additional requirements for validity come into play for those sacraments.

      • Kenneth M. Fisher says:

        So, according to some logic on this Site, it would be better to go to Confession to a Cardinal Dolan or one of his “approved” priests, than to say a St. Athanasius THE GREAT whose Pope was actually an Arian.

        Or, for that matter, a priest who will tell you that some things that are definitely of serious matter, ARE NOT of serious matter. I have had the occasion to counsel a young woman at the REC (Religious Education Congress) that had been told that her losing her virginity OUT OF WEDLOCK was not really a moral sin.

        I was told by a priest, the late Fr. Charles Fiore, an Author, Theologian and Canon Lawyer, that in times of necessity, God supplies jurisdiction rather than allow such travesties as I have outlined above, and he taught at the Angelicum for many years.

        These are times in which the normal supports Catholics used to be able to rely on ARE NO LONGER ALWAYS THERE, and we have to study the Church’s Doctrines and History in order to stay Catholic and make decisions that we may not really want to have to make!

        So now, to some on this site, faculties granted by a heretic bishop are more important than the teachings of God and His Church. Why did God give us a brain?

        God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
        May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
        Viva Cristo Rey!
        Kenneth M. Fisher, Founding Director
        Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc.

      • Jack O'Malley says:


        If the FSSPX is, like the Orthodox, outside the Church, in schism, then their sacraments of Penance and Matrimony most certainly are valid.

        If they are within the Church, in a condition of “canonical irregularity”, then those sacraments are again valid by supplied jurisdiction.

        It is absurd to think that an FSSPX bishop may validly ordain priests, but that those priests may neither absolve sins nor witness marriages.

        As this is a topic for a canon law blog and transcends the purview of BCI’s charter, viz. Boston Catholic Insider is a Catholic blog intended to help people learn more about what is happening inside the Archdiocese of Boston., I’d rather not pursue the issue further here.

      • Liam says:


        No supplied jurisdiction applies to Roman Rite priests. Rome determines where it is supplied, not the SSPX. To tthink otherwise is to adopt Protestant thought.

      • Jack O'Malley says:

        Liam: No supplied jurisdiction applies to Roman Rite priests.

        That can’t possibly be true. If it were, there would be no need for the various canons addressing supplied jurisdiction.

        The ultimate criterion is what is good for the souls of the faithful. Common sense says that if a priest can consecrate the Host, he can marry Dick and Jane. Or absolve their contrite confession of premarital cohabitation. Or that the bishop who ordained him can confirm their kids. This is the lex ferenda, no matter the lex lata. Or more ad rem: salus populi suprema lex esto. “Salus” here in its Catholic sense.

        We’ll have to let the lawyers hash this out. They don’t pay us enough to do it.

    • I agree with Jack on this one: SSPX priests and every other traditional priest have supplied jurisdiction according to the law itself. Supplied jurisdiction is not exclusively affiliated with nor was invented by the SSPX, it is in Canon Law, which the Vatican issued. To that said the SSPX priests and bishops only exercise their ministry as a supplement when the ordinary ministers are absent and incompetent to administering the received and approved rites of the Church (which for Romans is the Tridentine sacraments, for the Eastern Rite Catholics the rites of their own ritual churches).

      In terms of Mass attendance itself, when you attend even a diocesan TLM and join that parish, that priest is only exercising supplied jurisdiction according to the law (your parish is your residential parish, whether you like it or not, whether you actually go to Mass there or not).

      For a basic introduction, please read my new book (click on my name) and read on how it relates to where you can actually marry in the church according to canon law.

      (BCI, time to close comments.)

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  17. tryingtofigurethisout says:

    if you are going to toss bombs about grammar, shouldn’t you have you ” stuff ” together?…..

    “Suffice it to say that if you, Mr. Tryingtofigurethisout, happen to fall into onto the tracks at Park Street Station and are run over by an MBTA train, and if an FSSPX priest (ADMINISTER ???) the Last Rites of the Church (i.e. the Sacrament of Extreme Unction) to you as you expire, you will merit at the least a studio apartment in the Kingdom of the Father. So knock off the contumely. ”

    you don’t like Ratzinger, you don’t like Francis i assume? you didn’t like PJP2 i assume?… may not be a sedevacantist… you just play one on the internet!!!!!…… you are very adept at coming on and posting interesting words that are not widely used and weaving them into some sort of authoritative statement of jack O …. the problem is more often than not, with your conclusions, you are just wrong… Silly Boy….

    • Jack O'Malley says:

      The grammar is correct. I suggest a review of the subjunctive for your edification. As for the rest of your remarks, I will respond several years hence when you will have presumably attained the age of reason.j

  18. tryingtofigurethisout says:

    is that the age of reason under pius X or the age of reason before him? The grammar is not correct… much like a lot of what you say

  19. S W says:

    qit bein so skrupulus.
    Evry thing I need 2 no, I got from staind glass windos and the sacriments.

    Don’t take the bait and get divided.
    BCI is an important site because there is a thread of people here who grasp the crisis: The Heresy of Modernism and worldwide future implications. Unlike Voris and Fr. Z and others we live in the enemy camp and know from inside, the enemy. Who do you think Dolan consulted with Re: the Saint Pat’s parade? Rome? The forces that are driving the new Katholic culture are based here. Consider; the RCAB spokeman’s brother was at the Bilderburg (globalists) meeting this year, or the fact that the Secretary of Social Services and Health care is a member of The Council on Foreign Relations, a man who upon his ordination took the oath against Modernism and now seems to personify it. When the Harvard scholar from Weymouth said “move on” he is going on the premise that these Modernists have victory at hand. Its a lie. The gates of Hell will not prevail. The church will survive the Modernist heresy. I’m glad BCI is here to commentate from ring side. Tell these clowns – “People who fight the Latin Mass are fighting Christ” then walk away and continue the charitable work that the church militant have always done.

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